How to Make Change Real
The Change Signal with Roger Martin
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Roger Martin is one of the clearest thinkers I know on strategy, leadership, and transformation. In this Change Signal episode, we get into why so many change efforts stall, not because people are lazy or resistant, but because they’ve been given a vague or demeaning job: “go execute this.”
Roger offers a better way: choice chartering. Give people the shape of the answer you need, not the answer itself. Help them understand the strategic choice, then ask them to make the next set of choices for their part of the organization.
We also explore agency, psychological safety, vision, and why respecting the old system may be the key to changing it. If you lead change in a large organization, this is a practical, thoughtful conversation about how transformation really happens.
Three questions sit at the heart of this conversation:
Are you asking people to make real choices, or just comply?
What past are you accidentally disrespecting?
Is your change work actually part of the work?
ABOUT ROGER:
Roger Martin is a writer, strategy advisor, speaker, and one of the world’s leading management thinkers. He is the former Dean of the Rotman School of Management at the University of Toronto, the author or co-author of numerous books, including Playing to Win, and a trusted advisor to CEOs and senior leaders around the world.
Music Credits: Rest in the Garden - SackJo22 ft Duckett & The Stubble Field Break (Mana Mixed) - Mana Junkie ft Apoxode

